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Posted by: ex03134 ® 11/26/2005, 09:37:32 Author Profile Mail author Edit |
i am investigating the effects of a can being crushed not from the top but from the side of a can. I calculated the force using by calculating the 2nd moment of area for a hollow cylinder using the equation I=pi*R^3*t
I-2nd moment of area R-external radius t-wall of thickness Then i calculated the bending moment using tensile stress = My/I M-bending moment y-distance from neutral axis and from that calculated the force using F=4M/L where L is the distance between the two reaction forces acting up from the can supports. However i got an extremely large value for force. I realised this was because i assumed that it was a simply supported beam.but in reality the top side of the can bends independtly of the bottom. I was wondering if there was an alternative method to calculating the force to be a much smaller one. Can anyone help me? |
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Posted by: devitg ® 11/27/2005, 18:13:01 Author Profile Mail author Edit |
here is my prior post
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Posted by: devitg ® 11/27/2005, 18:11:45 Author Profile Mail author Edit |
As in my other post, where you post too
It far from bending or flexing It is near BUCKLING . I supposs that if you want to crush it , it will be do between two plates. A can have a great diameter to thicknes ratio and it will be buckled before bend.
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Posted by: ex03134 ® 11/29/2005, 12:27:32 Author Profile Mail author Edit |
thank you for your reply. so if the can is buckling, is there an alternative way of calculating the force for it to buckle?...sorry if im bothering you.. |
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Posted by: devitg ® 11/29/2005, 16:27:44 Author Profile Mail author Edit |
Hi, As far as I know , that kind of form ,the can , fall off calculus, a small.
All you need is a small force to make a deformation on one side and the the can will colapse . As I told you , do a try and error test. |
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