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Can anyone help finding the center coordinates of two rotating tubes?
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Posted by: 94jetta~~ ®

05/24/2009, 23:09:31

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I am working on a project where I need to align two tubes with a circular cross section. These are both the same diameter, but large over 4m. Both of these tubes have some radial runout. They must be put together to form one solid tube with the same rotating center axis.

The first step would be to build some measuring stands to measure to the tube from the stand on each side of the joint at 10-12 places evenly spaced around the circumference. This would show me the actual runout.

But from there how would I find the coordinates (X,Y) of the centers of each side of the joint so I can figure out how to move the tubes to line up the centers accurately? Maybe a set of equations that I'm missing?

Thanks in advance for any help.
-Josh








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Posted by: randykimball ®
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05/25/2009, 02:04:54

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Hello and welcome,
I'm having trouble understanding your question. Are you trying to align the ends of two tubes in alignment? If so here are some methods:
1. machine a spud to fit the insides of both tubes and slide them over the spud.
2. attach an indicator to one tube and rotate it (the indicator)around the end of the other until the indicator "indicates" that your have them centered.
3. mike around the tubes and find the high and low points of diameters. mark those areas and match the two tubes to have the same rotational high and low sides. then bridge the two tubes with a straight piece of angle iron while you weld or attach them to the stand.
4. place snug fitting spuds (made of about anything) with tiny centered holes into each end of both tubes. Place a strong light at one end and align the tubes until you can "see the light" through all four peep holes from the other end while the tubes are constrained to the stand and while the high and low sides are matched rotationally. a laser could be fired through the peep holes on to a target to prove the four holes are aligned.


NOTE: the correct way to do this is with the indicator to aligh the ends while the high and low sides are aligned rotationally, then use the peep holes to set alignment through the total lengths. .. but if it were myself, and didn't have to be aligned to some tight tolerance, I would bridge the two tubes with a straight and stout length of angle iron while the high and low sides were are in rotational alignment.





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Posted by: RWOLFEJR ®

05/26/2009, 09:41:38

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If you could whip up a couple of matched V-Blocks out of material that's stout enough to handle the material you might be able to clamp the two pieces midway in the blocks and slightly squeeze them into alignment. Even if you slightly egg them out in the squeezing they'd egg the same and spring back to their round, or not so round original shape.

Even a couple of H-beams... Lay one on the ground. Nest your two tube pieces in the beam flanges. Set your second beam on top. Throw a ratchet strap or chain binders around them and clamp. Or maybe weld a couple of heavy channels on the beams and use a couple threaded bars to clamp?








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